We had Joe as our driver and he was the absolute BEST! This was a 3 hour trip on the Outlaw trail. Joe was very safe driver and knowledgeable in the history of this area, as well as the plants and wildlife. We took stops for photos, water breaks, and just to take in the awesome scenery. Our tour started at 9:00am, and we never felt too hot. We would definitely do this again and try a sunset tour.